Show Notes

Article critiqued in this episode:

Sustaining Hope in Uncertain Times
By Dane Jensen
March 15, 2022

In this episode:

We look at a ‘do good’ paradigm idea of how to deal with uncertainty. To overcome depression and anxiety and ignite hope. But we discover that visioning a better future has bad side-effects for social systems and planetary health. Thank goodness there is a better way to do all three at the same time.

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